All right so you've got a small Postsaver project to do, you’re a home owner potentially and all you've got is a regular plumber's torch. Let me show you how that, that'll work. It's possible and if you're a professional you're probably going to use a soft flame torch as recommended. Let's get this started. All right, I always keep a pail of water and a roller with me. On a square post you want to roll. Key here is to move as quickly as you possibly can you don't want the that the flame to be resting on Postsaver for a prolonged amount of time.